Utada: What are you most targeted on pursuing in the meanwhile?
Kojima: There’s a principle in particle physics known as the Commonplace Mannequin, however it could possibly solely clarify about 5 p.c of the mass and power within the universe. In truth, it’s thought that about 26 p.c of the mass and power within the universe is darkish matter, and the remaining 70 p.c is darkish power. No matter darkish power, we all know that darkish matter exists, however we do not know what it’s, and we’re presently looking out to know its true nature.
Utada: Darkish power is …
Kojima: We all know nearly nothing about it.
Tanaka: You might say it’s a reputation that was nearly given at random.
Utada: OK, so “darkish” right here doesn’t imply “not lit,” however moderately “unknowable” or “unknown.”
Tanaka: We don’t know something about darkish power. It has that title as a result of the universe is increasing. However darkish matter may be defined by gravity, so we imagine it exists. Nevertheless it’s arduous to seek out it. We’re making an attempt to measure one thing once we do not know what it’s, so we spend a substantial amount of time conducting experiments.
Utada: It’s like proving the existence of one thing by the absence of one thing else.
Kojima: Sure, that’s proper.
Utada: It’s like making an attempt to show the existence of an invisible man. A room with capability for 10 individuals is packed though there are solely 9 individuals there. Or there have been 10 individuals within the room, however traces of 11 individuals coming from it.
Tanaka Sure, sure, that’s the thought!
It’s a matter of creating an analogy to one thing else or changing one relationship with one other. Utada says they connect a particular significance to this act. Which means they repeatedly remodel what exists solely in their very own thoughts into intelligent metaphors by making full use of the information and expertise they’ve cultivated over time, and the phrases and symbols derived from their instinct. They then diligently perform the duty of speaking these to others.